2024 was the year of the breakout pop star, whether you’re talking about Sabrina Carpenter, Chappell Roan, or Gracie Abrams, the latter of whom recently scored her first top-10 hit with “That’s So True.” She only just released her latest album, The Secret Of Us, in June, but she’s already plotting her next LP, it turns out.

In a new Nylon interview Abrams spoke about how she plans to wrap up the year, saying, “I’ll be just chilling. I’ll be writing. I’ll be writing a lot.” As for that writing, the piece notes Abrams “thinks a record could very well be out by the end of 2025.”

Abrams went on to discuss Taylor Swift’s release strategy these days, saying, “I am inspired by Taylor in a million ways, but especially by the pace with which she puts things out into the world. There’s less pressure the more you release — that’s how I consider it for myself. I want to just keep it coming while I’m in this period of writing as frequently as I am. I think it would be a waste to not be open.”

She also reflected on her recently stint as Saturday Night Live musical guest, saying, “It’s such a privilege, an honor to do it. And also Chris Rock hosting is so f*cking nuts! I feel like I somehow cheated the system into being there for his show.”

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